There were 75 people in attendance. Bob Leonard called the meeting to order at 6:55 PM.


VISITORS: There were 4 guests in attendance and they were Jim Nichols, George Van Gourder, Carter Henley and Amy Bunch.


ANNOUNCEMENTS: Bob Leonard asked if any one was having trouble getting news letter and if so let Henry Davis or Tom Gillard know. He passed around the sign up sheet for the mini lathe to be given away at the clubs Christmas party.  Hugh Hurst reminded everyone that the Christmas party would be Friday December 6th at 6:00 PM at the Nazarene Church gymnasium in Decherd.  He would like everyone to make something to give away as door prizes.  His wife grows African violets and will bring a couple to give away.  He passed around a sign up sheet for the party so they could get an idea how many are coming.  Make sure a bring a covered dish and Hugh said he really enjoyed fried chicken since his wife did not let him have it at home.  This year the party will be in the gym of the church since we will have a large attendance.  The club will furnish the soft drinks and coffee but need someone to bring sweeten and unsweetened ice tea.  John Sargents band will play at the party.  He asked the Christmas party committee to meet right after this meeting.  Richard Gulley is working on the clubs Webb site.  It is up and running now.  There is a message board and search link on it.  Newsletter links to Webb site.  If anyone has any suggestions about site let Richard know.  Tom Gillard announced that you could get the Stanley 80 planes on E-Bay for $20.00. Doyle McConnell said he had boxes without hinges and anyone could have them.  He also had some spalted maple to give away and he has a 3-inch by 24 inch sanding belt if anyone needs this size belt.  Deen Lutes announced that the Dutch Bakery was having their open house the 1st weekend in December and the club members are all invited. Franklin County Arts Guild is trying to open an art gallery and a place to have classes on second Ave. in Winchester.  Bob Reese brought in some tropical wood that he has for sale.  See him to buy.  Doyle said we had the joinery seminar this year and tonight we had the glue program, which glues it all together. Asked that we bring something for show and tell in January and bring instruments and we will have music instead of a program.


OLD BUSINESS: The club had its Fall Seminar on joinery last month.  Chairman, Ken Gould announced that the club charged $20.00 for it but once all the bills were in it was found it only cost the club $10.00.  Since the club does not try to make money but only break even on seminars there is a $10.00 refund available for those that attended and want the refund.  Those that do not want a refund will be donating the $10.00 to the club.  See Henry for the refund.   The club thanks Ken Gould and Bob Lowrance for putting together the seminar and Dean and Andy for use of their shop.  We also want to thank the presenters Tom Cowan, Dave Whyte, Ross Roepke, John Sargent, Andy Weaver and Dean Lutes.  Thanks also to Phil Bishop for the dynamite chili and the Dutch Bakery for the pastries.


NEW BUSINESS: Tonight is election of officers.  The nominating committee made up of Tom Cowan, Ray Torstenson, and Matt Brothers came up with Doyle McConnell for president, Ken Gould vice president, Barbara Keen Secretary, Henry Davis treasurer, Tom Gillard news letter and Loyd Ackerman publicity. The nominations were recommended for office by Bob Reese and seconded by David Whyte and than voted into office by 100% of members present.


MONTHLY DRAWING: Ruth Ryan won the Titanium Drill set.


SHOW AND TELL: Tom Gillard got a new lathe and he made citrus cedar wood from Don Shadow’s farm and he made a salt and pepper shacters from it. 


Ken Gould made a spalted Walnut bowl from wood he had gotten from Loyd Ackerman.  He also made a jig like Don Whyte had at the seminar.  He made a finger jointed tool box using the jig, which he made from Sassafras.


Doyle McConnell made a vase from Box Elder and made another one, which he left some bark on it.  He also shown 2 hand mirrors he had made for Christmas gifts.  On his vases he uses 40 % polyurethane and 60% mineral sprits.  He wipes it on with the lathe going at a slow speed.  He also made a laser light jig for setting thickness of walls of vases etc.   He also made a tool for holding crooked bar cutting tool instead of strapping to your arm. 


Henry Davis brought in his finished spalted top keepsake box. Henry showed a band saw resaw guide, which you put, in miter gauge slot which uses a laser.  He spring clamps to hold in place and he made it out of cherry.


Dean Lutes niece made a clock which was scroll sawed out of wood from his scrap pile.


Loyd Ackerman showed a turned Black Walnut plate that he started in 1998 at Falls Mill.


Hugh Hurst turned a Black Walnut candleholder and a Black Walnut lamp and a Black Walnut natural edge bowl. He also made a Cherry bowl with a textured edge.  He used an engraver with a # 8 nail rounded off in it. 


Jim Roy made a curio cabinet, which he brought one of the doors to show.  It was made out of Red Gum.  He brought a picture of the whole curio cabinet.


Ray Torstenson made a box out of Kabota and he finished with tongue oil and had to put it under a lamp to dry.


Kenneth Clark made a Black Walnut display shelves for hanging on wall for nick knacks.  He used some tongue and grove ceiling boards that he had.


Jim Van Cleave brought back the table he had all in parts last month.  The table is together and is made with Black Walnut and a Cherry bead for trim.  He uses varnish for his finishes.


Charles Walker made a guitar out of Red Cedar.


Jeff Roehm made a terrarium out of Black Walnut and finished with lacquer.  He showed a guitar he made a year ago out of Spruce, burled Walnut, Mahogany and Paufero.  He finished with Shellac flakes from India and Walnut oil.


Bob Leonard brought in two unknown pieces of wood and hopes someone can name identify



PROGRAM: The program tonight will be on different types of glue and the presenter is Tom Gillard.  He said when he was researching the glues for the program the different glues and adhesives available was overwhelming.  Fine Woodworking Magazine February of 1999 had a working guide to glue in it.  Polyvinyl Acetate is the common white glue we use and Aliphatic Resin is the yellow glue. White glue has a longer open time than the yellow glue. Yellow glue is used by the professional woodworker rather than white glue. The white glue has moderate resistance to heat and acids.  Both white and yellow degrade if exposed to UV. It has a high moisture content and can be thinned 5% if needed.  It needs 20 to 90 minutes clamp time. It cleans up with water. Thermal plastic refers to hot glues and contact glues. Contact cement releases gas solvents and needs pressure to set. Open time for contact glue is 2 to 15 minutes. It cleans up with mineral spirits. Should use in a ventilated area and is highly flammable. The thermal setting glues have higher heat resistance and moisture resistance.  Hot glues have good temporary fastening but do not have a good lasting bond. Hot glues are used in a heated gun and there are many different types of hot glue sticks available.  The sticks come in high and low temperature heat and in colored or clear.  The open time is short. Gap glue means that it is thick and will not shrink and can be used as crack filler and will not deteriorate with age.  Epoxy can be crack filler and it is waterproof and has high strength. Epoxy can have fast and slower type hardeners.  It needs to be used in well-ventilated area and use gloves since some peoples skin reacts negatively with it. It has good heat resistance but will degrade in UV.  Consider epoxy waterproof. It is good for keeping water in or out. Natural glues such as the flour and water mixture, fish glue wheat glue and hide glue.  The hide glue has an extremely long open time but is also a disadvantage if you need to have something set up quickly after you have glued it up.  Hide glue joints will weaken over time which yellow and white glue joints will not. Non-reactive synthetic glues cure by releasing heat or water.  Tacky glue is used for putting velvet to a backing board etc. and sticks instantly. Tite bond II is polyurethane glue and cures by a chemical reaction.  It cleans up with water.  It is called waterproof glue and is gap filling.  It has about30 minutes open time.  Clamping time is at least 4 hours and less in high humidity. Urethane glues are good for water resistance projects. Gorilla glue is polyurethane glue that is popular. It reacts with water.  You wet one part of the 2 pieces you want to glue with water and the other part you put glue on.  It has a foaming action that takes place but the foam itself is not structurally sound but the joint will be. It has 10 to 40 minutes open time. When they speak of waterproof glue they are not saying it is totally waterproof but that it has a specific resistance to water.  Very rigorous tests determine the resistance and the tests in the states are different than the tests in Europe.  Pyhonel is the glue that plywood is put together with  at 264 degrees with pressure sets this glue. Instant or cyanoacrylate glues can glue your figures together if you are not careful.  The glue must be applied in a thin even coat this is a type glue where more is not better.  It comes in different thickness.  You can use an accelerator to speed up the setting time.  All glues are formulated for specific conditions.  Always use temperature recommended on glues.  Most glue will produce joints stronger than the wood itself. There are no permanent glue joints.  Consider using reversible glues since are easy to repair.  Polyurethane glues are not reversible.